Zeke explains how mortgage note investing works and why he believes it offers a more stable and passive alternative to traditional rental property ownership. Instead of dealing with tenants, vacancies, maintenance issues, and unexpected repairs, note investors collect payments from borrowers much like a bank does.

The conversation dives into how Zeke got started after experiencing the Great Financial Crisis, helping homeowners with loan modifications and learning the inner workings of mortgage-backed securities. Those experiences ultimately led him into buying, servicing, and managing mortgage notes before launching Snow Lion Capital.

Dave and Zeke also discuss the differences between performing and distressed notes, how investors can purchase notes at significant discounts, and the importance of maintaining strong equity positions to minimize risk. Zeke explains the key criteria his team looks for when evaluating note opportunities and why experienced investors are increasingly turning to note investing as they seek more passive income streams.

Finally, Zeke shares his vision for the future, including expanding Snow Lion Capital's note funds and preparing for the next market cycle by targeting distressed note opportunities that may emerge in the coming years.

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